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    Driver not tight to horn flange on Altec 511B, any problem?

    The GPA 902 driver can not be completely tight mounted to the horn flange. It seams that the flange is not as flat as it should be, and a small spring can be seen, maybe 0,2mm.

    I am not sure if it is tight around the entrance to the 1inch horn opening and I have not been listening to the driver/horn yet.

    However, the original filt gasket on the GPA 902 driver seams not flexible enough to accomodate that distance 0,2mm.

    Is there any appropriate gaskets available ? Will some kind of glue around the outer surface of the flange be an alternative ?

    Anyone with the same problem? How did you solve it ?

    Or is this not any problem ?

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    Re: Driver not tight to horn flange on Altec 511B, any probl

    Quote Originally Posted by MerlinVSM View Post
    The GPA 902 driver can not be completely tight mounted to the horn flange. It seams that the flange is not as flat as it should be, and a small spring can be seen, maybe 0,2mm.

    I am not sure if it is tight around the entrance to the 1inch horn opening and I have not been listening to the driver/horn yet.

    However, the original filt gasket on the GPA 902 driver seams not flexible enough to accomodate that distance 0,2mm.

    Is there any appropriate gaskets available ? Will some kind of glue around the outer surface of the flange be an alternative ?

    Anyone with the same problem? How did you solve it ?

    Or is this not any problem ?

    - Yes, leaving a gap is a problem .

    - Make ( & add ) another gasket ( custom made by you ) utilizing automotive gasket parts ( widely available at "diy" automotive centers ) .

    - Look for rubberized/latex cork ( for it's spongy qualities ) .


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    Re: Driver not tight to horn flange on Altec 511B, any probl

    Another (more difficult) option for fixing the horn….
    I have fixed less than perfect flanges by lapping them with a piece of quarter inch glass and sandpaper. Lightly spray glue a sheet of 220 grit (or finer) paper to the glass and stand the horn flange down on top of the paper. Hold the horn by the throat and push and pull across the paper. Go slow and don’t let the horn rock. Patience is the key as you can make matters worse by letting something you are trying to lap rock around. As you work the piece the machined area will grow and you will have no trouble seeing when the flat portion extends all the way around the opening. If it were me, I would stop when the flat portion extends beyond the opening by one quarter inch or so.

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    Re: Driver not tight to horn flange on Altec 511B, any probl

    Quote Originally Posted by martyh45 View Post
    Another (more difficult) option for fixing the horn?.
    I have fixed less than perfect flanges by lapping them with a piece of quarter inch glass and sandpaper. Lightly spray glue a sheet of 220 grit (or finer) paper to the glass and stand the horn flange down on top of the paper. Hold the horn by the throat and push and pull across the paper. Go slow and don?t let the horn rock. Patience is the key as you can make matters worse by letting something you are trying to lap rock around. As you work the piece the machined area will grow and you will have no trouble seeing when the flat portion extends all the way around the opening. If it were me, I would stop when the flat portion extends beyond the opening by one quarter inch or so.

    Had to look it up for my own education ( I wanted to simply call it "grinding" )

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    Re: Driver not tight to horn flange on Altec 511B, any probl

    The challenge in lapping will be holding the horn steady as it's massive center of gravity is completely opposite of where you want it.

    IMO, if you adhere your abrasive sheet to the glass, use a second piece of glass to "clamp" it so as to avoid any high spots. Also, i'd recommend using a waterproof aluminum oxide abrasive and some lubricant(wd-40 or soapy water is fine).

    Personally, i'd find a means of clamping the horn stationary and drawing the glass/abrasive across the flange. This could be done with a large quality file as well. As mentioned above, a steady hand and patience will go a long way. The more slowly you remove material, the more evenly you will do it.
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    Re: Driver not tight to horn flange on Altec 511B, any probl

    I build model airplanes and have, on occasion, had to perform the same procedure on the 1st former of the fuselage where the noseblock sets.

    Getting it flat for a good joint is only one issue. Equally as important is getting the thrust line true. Just because it's flat, and all gaps are removed, does not mean the driver will be pointing in the right direction. I'm not sure how critical that is with horns. It's way critical for propellers!

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    Re: Driver not tight to horn flange on Altec 511B, any probl

    Quote Originally Posted by MerlinVSM View Post
    ......maybe 0,2mm.
    This is only ~0.008", so a 'fun foam' or similar gasket is plenty sufficient until the flange's 'bow' exceeds ~1.25 mm:

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    Re: Driver not tight to horn flange on Altec 511B, any probl

    Do you have some photos we can look at ? How bad is it ? Make a cardboard gasket.

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